Audio Files for Audiophiles
Episode 3
Divination and Casting Lots
7.5 Minutes
I have decided to post these transcripts before I do the videos and release the audio as I felt it important enough to get this out to you as soon as possible.
Welcome back this is the third episode of the All About Kleck Nerdcast – Audio Files for Audiophiles. I have written these episodes using bits and pieces of articles that have vital facts that substantiate my claims plus lots of personal experiences and commentary. In this episode I will be discussing what is divination or what Jonathan Kleck and his followers call “casting a lot”. Since this is something that Jonathan Kleck does on a very frequent basis to either confirm what the Lord has told him or to see a communication from the Lord I thought it appropriate to delve into what is this practice exactly and how it is viewed in the Biblical sense.
I would like to say when I was saved Jonathan Kleck became my friend and mentor. I was introduced to many new ideas and as a new Christian I had no real knowledge base of the Bible. As I met his followers I began casting lots like a majority of the followers that I knew, not knowing it was wrong because Jonathan and everyone incorrectly called divination “casting a lot”. Casting a lot is completely different than utilizing a book and divining a communication or confirmation from the Lord. The tradition of casting lots is referenced several times in the Bible. A variety of objects were used to cast a lot, depending on the place and local customs, such as coins, polished sticks, cards, dice, and so on. We today carry out a form of this ancient custom whenever we throw a dice or flip a coin. Once I knew what divination was, and it wasn’t casting a lot, and I read the Lord’s view on divination, I immediately stopped the practice.
So first what is Divination exactly?
The word divination comes from the Latin divinare, meaning “to foresee” or “to be inspired by a god.” To practice divination is to uncover hidden knowledge by supernatural means. It is associated with the occult and involves fortune-telling or soothsaying, as it used to be called. It has been used in various forms throughout history, diviners ascertain their interpretations of how a querent should proceed by reading signs, events, or omens, or through alleged contact or interaction with a supernatural agency.
God tells us His view of divination in Deuteronomy 18:10: “There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. ” First Samuel 15:23 compares rebellion to the “sin of divination.”
Practicing divination is listed as one of the reasons for Israel’s exile (2 Kings 17:17). Jeremiah 14:14 spoke of the false prophets of the time, saying, “They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.” So, compared to God’s truth, divination is false, deceitful, and worthless.
Now let’s look at the term Bibliomancy and it’s definition.
Bibliomancy is one of many divination practices found around the world, and involves the use of books—typically sacred texts—as a method to foretell the future and find guidance. There are many different techniques of bibliomancy that can be used, and a practitioner’s own belief system often informs the way in which results are interpreted.
Bibliomancy is often used with sacred texts to divine the future, but can also be performed with fiction, such as what Jonathan Kleck uses, his thesaurus or any book, even a parachutists magazine.
The tradition of bibliomancy is found in religious practices all over the world. To practice bibliomancy, you can select any book that is important to you, and focus on finding an answer to your question, just like Jonathan Kleck uses his thesaurus.
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word bibliomancy (etymologically from biblion- “book” and manteía “divination by means of”) “divination by books, or by verses of the Bible” was first recorded in 1753 (Chambers’ Cyclopædia).
Bibliomancy is the practice of divination by means of a book. Generally speaking, bibliomancy involves turning to a random page in a sacred book in order to find the answer to a question posed. Bibliomancy often refers to fortune-telling by means of the Bible. But, by no means is the Bible the only book sometimes used in bibliomancy. Other books sometimes used are the I Ching, and the Qur’an. The process of bibliomancy involves asking a clear question, opening the book to a random page, and trailing a finger in slow circles until “the spirit” says to stop. The verse where the questioner’s finger points supposedly contains the answer.
This is exactly the procedure that Jonathan Kleck uses with his thesaurus and other books to receive confirmations and communications from God.
He has used this method to condemn, receive communications to remove blessings of healing, confirm trips to various places in the United States, for encouragement, how to spend money, for medical advice to other people, you name it he has used this form of divination as an integral part of his ministry. Since he claims he has a direct line to God as the Angel of the Church of Philadelphia he has used this to further his doctrine and his agenda.
He has used this to kick people out of the community, three people I know of, Lee, Marissa and Kelly. He’s used it to make business decisions and control other people’s lives. His whole response to it is you can’t argue with him because if you do you come against the one who sent him and coming against the one who sent him is “blaspheming the Holy Spirit” and you are then condemned to the pit for all eternity. This is using the fear of damnation for even questioning him. This is a spirit but it definitely is not of the Lord God.
Bibliomancy is not biblical. God’s Word condemns all forms of divination in no uncertain terms such as Acts 16:16-19. Occult practices are not made less evil simply because the Bible is being used in the process.
Ours is a reasonable faith, not one based on esoteric interpretations of random verses. Our wisdom comes from God (James 1:5).
So bibliomancy is making a prayer or supplication and opening a book, (like a thesaurus) searching for an answer to a question. It is divination, plain and simple. God speaks very strongly against such practices. It is found throughout the scripture: Deuteronomy 18:9-14, 2 Kings 17:17, Micah 3:6-7, Acts 16:16, and Deuteronomy 18:14 to name a few. Divination is an abomination to the Lord, it’s very clear where God stands on this yet Jonathan Kleck disregards the Word of the Lord and engages in this practice and uses it to define his ministry and lead his followers astray.